Dlb would say he did no overaction. You could say what you do is not overaction, but just for expression. Dlb can say exactly same manner. If you say he cannot, your "freedom" is just for you and not for else. Just like old war crimes...

Every time, you try to get the last word.
You seem to have a problem with every thing which is written here, every action which is begun, you use a so-called 'philosophy', you give lessons of morale, of behaviour, of History..
Honestly, you become boring to read.
You give to me the feeling to be subjected to the authority and that's all.

He's a troll, plain and simple. If we'd all stop taking his bait, I think he'd go away eventually. It's attention he wants, so I think the best course is to not give him any. TROLL!

Yep, he is a troll that why I am ignoring him

So we do not feed trolls...

I'm wondering what has happened to Wanky's posts on Predictor. I know he posted in this thread:

http://predictor.scripps.edu/forum_thread.php?id=2570

The posts before and after his are still there, but his own have disappeared. I can't think of any justification for deleting his posts in that thread, so have all his posts been deleted, or what?

Geo's posts, or at least some of them, have also disappeared. Where to?

I guess we should know better than to feed a troll for so long, but I do think some good discussions (among the rest of us) about the whole issue came out of it and made enduring the troll's litany of nonsense worthwhile. Trolls are sad. Really. I feel sorry for them. What a sad, sad way to spend one's life.

/me bows to the lady - thanks for asking.

My account got deleted and then IP banned right after posting a link to this thread. As usual, there was no email notification, justification or explanation of any kind at all.

I had also posted about memory use earlier in that day (I think - can't look now) where I corrected dlb's statement that the "waiting for memory" error was BOINC's fault, and pointed out that it was his application that was demanding the memory, not BOINC.

So - I now rely on threads like this to keep up with the never-ending Predictor Dictator soap opera.

Maybe it should be PreDictator@Home then!

Works for me! Let's start a campaign to get it changed to that on all the stats sites

Since I don't have an account, and hence no team, someone register my vote for the email to the project. Maybe all the B4L members can sign as a team - how many have been banned and deleted so far?

I can't see any justification for deleting accounts and banning IP numbers without first warning the person both on the forum and possibly also in more detail in an email. Or for then taking such radical action without giving a reason. These are not actions moderators can even take on the boinc forums - only administrators with access to the database.

But the account of the spammer I complained about on Predictor is still intact!

This arbitrary and non-consensual treatment of members presupposes a negative and hierarchical attitude to people and human relationships that I find intolerable.

I wonder whether the people who created the email would allow the names of individuals (with a forum registration number) to be added at the end? After all, only a minority of crunchers probably belong to a team

Yup, I remember your post, too. But of course blaming DLB's precious application to cause any errors was not nice of you...


Maybe we should suggest new posting rules at PD@H:
[caution, sarcasm!]
#1 The admin is always right!
#2 If the admin isn't right rule #1 applies!
[/caution, sarcasm!]

[quote[caution, sarcasm!]
#1 The admin is always right!
#2 If the admin isn't right rule #1 applies!
[/caution, sarcasm!][/quote]

I'm sorry if you haven't read this in the forum rules, but the same rules apply in this forum as well

No problem, Willy - everybody knows that you ARE always right!

I can agree

@Willy: will you make a poll for BOINCstats team as well to be on that letter? (not for the stats site, but for the team)

I would allow single members on that letter, too - but of course it would be easier if they join a team. But how can I refer to members that do not exist at Predictor anymore...

Okay now, for everyone who doesn't belong to a team or for the ones who's team did not decide to sign, you can sign the letter as a petition here:
http://www.petitiononline.com/phletter/petition.html

But, I would still prefer having the Teams on the letter and attaching the signatures on that petition as some kind of "Users without team". So, if your team already decided to be on the letter, you may not want to sign that petition.

Bis wann sammelst Du?

Until what date are you collecting?

I am not in the middle of all that has been going on. I have been reading the forum posts here at BS and at the projects. I have P@H credits from a long time ago. If you were to look at my stats you would see that I have occasionally gotten a credit increase from an adjustment, but I have not crunched for them since July 2006.

While reading all the posts I have been keeping an eye on the stats, which I’m sure we all love/hate to do. The stats speak for themselves and they are currently speaking volumes.
http://www.boincstats.com/stats/project_graph.php?pr=pah&view=credit

When you speak to administrators like I do on a regular basis they are interested in only one thing. Numbers. If you could pull the stats together that show how many users there was before all this started and how many there are now, that alone would be compelling information. Next, if you could show how many active users there are now compared to before that will truly shock you. Just look at the credit summary for the project for the last months.

There is only a small percentage of the users still volunteering there time/electricity than there was before. That alone has got to get someone’s attention. I mean the projects are here to get results, right? Well if the project has fewer volunteers working and there are fewer results getting thru to the scientists who eventually are going to ask “Why?” The administrators are going to find out eventually and they are going to ask “Why?”
Now the volunteers can answer that last question directly with a petition that is asking for:
I personally have nothing against/for Scripps or P@H. I hope that the resolutions that are agreed upon in the future will be satisfactory for everyone. I agree on several points that have been brought out and I disagree with several of them. My right to do so. Just like it is to write this in a semi-public forum and I thank Willy, his family and friends for the gracious use of their time, personal space and money spent to keep BoincStats up and running.

I guess my time on the soapbox has ran out and I will step down.

Yours in Service,

It's even worse for public contributions than that picture shows.

A significant portion of the credits granted since mid-May have been due to the new practice at Predictor of assigning a big chunk of their internal farm to "favorite" users for a week at a time. The "favored" users get a huge credit boost that they didn't earn, and it makes the participation look better than it really is.

I wanted to have as much teams on the list as possible in July, but if it's worth we can wait longer.
The petition can be open longer as well.

The boinc credit system wasn't designed for this. Reassigning computers to a different user requires access to their authenticator key from the database. If I tried to reassign my computers' credits to another user who didn't know about it (as has happened on Predictor), I'd need to hack into their account to discover the number.

The petition for current or past Predictor crunchers to sign is at

http://www.petitiononline.com/phletter/petition.html

In case you don't know your account number any more, because it was deleted, you can go to the BOINC Combined Statistics of Netsoft, there all old credits are still listed (at least mine are). Wate on the other hand not

That's one piece of good news we were all wating for.

Wir, das Team Planet3DNow!, wollen mit auf der Petition stehen!

Aussage vom Team-Founder und Administrator Pipin und die Abstimmung

P3DN ist derzeit auf Platz 17 weltweit (BOINC combined) und sollte nächste Woche auf 16 vorrücken.
Wir haben zurzeit etwas über 1650 Mitglieder in BOINC combined und 42 im P@H Team.

P3DN bei P@H: http://predictor.scripps.edu/team_display.php?teamid=877
P3DN bei BoincStats: http://www.boincstats.com/stats/boinc_team_graph.php?pr=bo&id=17

*************

We, team Planet3DNow!, want to be on that open letter!

*The declaration of Pipin (admin of P3DN! and team founder)
*The Poll

Poll at BOINC@Poland

http://www.boincatpoland.org/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=1186