Well, I'm sure they haven't invented the wheel new and didn't waste a lot of time to reprogram the Upper-Case-app into their own.
The Upper-Case isn't on their server anymore anyways - see apps
Now if we only had some russian members who know a bit more about the project and the new app.
I call everyone who may read this here to say something to it.

Btw: Belgian Beer was abandoned due to lack of a better project idea.

ABC@Home Beta
BOINC Alpha test
RALPH@Home
SETI@Home Beta
Climate prediction.net Beta (points are included in CPDN points)

All these projects fall into the same catagory, they are all test projects that don't do any real work, they are just there to improve thier parent project.

I think there is a big difference between running Uppercase and doing dedicated testing on code for some projects.

Is ABCbeta still alive? As long as they were, they did proper work of the same kind as the parent project, only under testing surroundings.

CPDNbeta, Ralph ans SetiBeta do real work as well, it's improving the code and it's result are uses if they are valid results.

BOINC Alpha is borderline, I agree, but as it's as well code testing, it's imho valid science.

And IMHO it should be removed. Top user has made 190,570 credits by crunching uppercase; that is a total waste of CPU time. It's actually more of a waste than Belgian Beer, because there is constant work. Some people just don't understand it's not yet another project to crunch the hell out of, they are supposed to attach for a few hours during tests and no more.

Since testing is needed, people should be able to get credit and track it (IMO).

Regardless, if it is on BOINCstats, it should be added to BAM too, which it isn't. It's a pain to have to manually attach each time.

You need to be physically using that computer (or remotely) in order to do the tests anyway, so why would BAM matter?

To test the BAM functionality with the client.

...duh
*slaps self*

I sent an e-mail to SerVal - Project developer, Forum administrator. Russia, Moscow mail to: SergeVal@mail.ru - with some question about this project - but from almost 30 hours - I don't have any answer from him.

When can this project be added to BOINCstats? They are sending out work pretty regularly now.

Info - link

Summary:
Project isn't doing anything useful, just calculating primes. They're rewriting BOINC web pages in ASP.NET (also making the pages look worse and with even more invalid HTML than the official BOINC code). And presumably rewriting the server daemons in .NET too. So yeah, nothing useful.NET SUCKS

By the way, are their credits super-inflated or did people really waste so much CPU time?

They are calculating primes. That's what other projects listed here do. Sounds like they passed the bar to get added to boincstats and bam.

They are calculating primes starting from '1', so I doubt they will discover anything new (PrimeGrid's "primegen" application has sequential generated primes up to 175000000000). RieselSieve and the other PrimeGrid's apps search very large primes that also follow a pattern.

What other project calculates primes?

Does WEP do primes? And yoyo does some sort of number searching.

Ah yes, it does. It actually searches for factors of numbers that are a mersenne prime + 2.

Yoyo searches for optimal Golomb rulers (not prime-related) getting work and uploading it back from distributed.net. In other words, it's a proxy between distributed.net's OGR project and BOINC.

Note I'm not saying all number searching / prime projects are useless. Just that searching for primes that are already known just to test the project (lacking some better test-work) is useless. For the record, VTU fully enters that category too (unless they changed the application recently).

vtu - although I don't think the dev actually does anything with the results.

Can stats be added now? If I read his comments correctly, the admin is okay with stats being posted.

http://gerasim.boinc.ru/forum/Default.aspx?g=posts&t=4

I still do not feel comfortable adding this project, but other stats sites don't seem to have the same hesitation I have.

The problem I have is with supporting projects that run only a test application. What's to stop people from setting up a project running uppercase (rename to drive_car_on_water_v0.01a.exe or gsm1.0.exe) and grant (huge) amounts of credits and rise in the charts? Some Polish steel project (exact name escapes me) comes to mind which disappeared quicker than I had the chance to download their XML files. Still they are included on some stats sites and no proof of actual work is available.

Convince me that I should add this project.

I look at it like this: They are doing prime searching like VTU, as far as I know. If there is no difference in what they are doing, they should be treated the same. Also, if folks can't get their whole BOINC stats here, they might go elsewhere.

how is this project now any different than VTU?

hehe, zombie beat me to it

VTU was added before I grew a conscience.

Anyway, maybe I'll add it, the reason being that I'm the only one being bothered by it.

However, don't expect anything BAM!ish, doesn't look like they mastered that yet.

Thanks Willy! Yeah, their windows implementation is bizarre!

From what I can see, Gerasim is run by BoincRU team

If we stop supporting projects that only run test applications, do we stop running Pre-Alpha, Alpha and Beta Projects, that aren't producing results ie Pirates@home.

I suppose there are 2 ways forward

1. BOINC is open, free and anyone can set up a project for any legal purpose and the public are free to choose what projects they crunch for.

2. BOINC is run like a business, the Open licensing is changed and new projects will have to be licensed to start up, the public will have a reduced choice of projects and may lose interest and stat sites limit the number of projects that they support ie. to those in full production.

Could BAM then become like GridRepublic and only support certain Projects.

The reason why BAM won't have Gerasim is that Gerasim is rewriting the server from scratch, and doesn't support ANY of the RPCs that account managers need.