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2007-08-08 16:18:30
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New project, same procedure.

URL: http://boinc.iaik.tugraz.at/sha1_coll_search/

From their first news and according to the server-status they have some WUs for Linux and Windows now!
Unfortunately the forum board is not open yet...
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2007-08-08 17:16:47

Thanks!
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2007-08-09 13:06:01

I've decided it's a waste of my computer power to crunch for a project that can't/won't enable the boards.

How do they expect to get find out what's going wrong when something crashes?

I have no problem with alpha testing. But at least let me tell you what works and doesn't work.

The lack of a message board also makes me wonder what that project might be hiding. I'm not saying this project is up to anything nefarious. But it does make me think.
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2007-08-09 13:50:12
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Hm, the copyright at the bottom (and the URL of course) says it's a project from TU Graz (Graz University of Technology), which is also running RCN, so at least I don't expect them to do any mischief.

Maybe the guys don't know how to enable the forum or simply forgot it? *scratches head*



EDIT: There's also a link on their homepage to Graz University of Technology with further links to:

* Website of the department
* Description of the research carried out
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2007-08-09 15:25:48

I've exchanged email with someone on the project. I suggested three things:

1) a link to contact the admin

2) a server status link

3) turning on message boards.

He responded with "You're right, we'll work on that."

I'm not sure which "that" he was referring to, but I'll take any of them.
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2007-08-09 15:29:53

I've exchanged email with someone on the project. I suggested three things...

Oh, nice!!

Funny enough I've just written an email to someone there as well a couple of minutes before... now they're getting spammed with "Please open the boards" requests. *LOL*
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2007-08-09 17:59:17
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Ah, I got answer as well, they are working on bringing the forum online.
On their homepage there's follwing note under "community":
Discussion forum will be online soon. In the meanwhile, feel free to contact sha1CollisionSearch@iaik.tugraz.at.
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2007-08-09 19:13:19

Very cool. So, howsabout getting it added to BOINCstats and BAM?
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2007-08-09 20:42:40
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Very cool. So, howsabout getting it added to BOINCstats and BAM?

Yeah, stats would be cool. But we should ask them first if we are allowed to use them in this early stage.

EDIT: Stats export seems to work already! :-)
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2007-08-09 22:34:22

Very cool. So, howsabout getting it added to BOINCstats and BAM?

Yeah, stats would be cool. But we should ask them first if we are allowed to use them in this early stage.

EDIT: Stats export seems to work already! :-)

If stats are exported, isn't that implicit permission for stat sites to publish them?
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2007-08-09 22:51:46
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Very cool. So, howsabout getting it added to BOINCstats and BAM?

Yeah, stats would be cool. But we should ask them first if we are allowed to use them in this early stage.

EDIT: Stats export seems to work already! :-)

If stats are exported, isn't that implicit permission for stat sites to publish them?

I guess so but asking is better.
And we didn't really obey the rules of posting a new project this time (some projects don't want their URL to be posted at a very early stage). So for keeping that URL as a secret it's too late anyway.
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2007-08-09 23:45:26

Cori, so we don't flood them with requests, why don't you ask for us?
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2007-08-10 00:51:34
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Is this another math project? Sorry the links given don't work at the moment.
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2007-08-10 01:26:22

Is this another math project? Sorry the links given don't work at the moment.

Yep. Here is the short description. The links work for me.

About SHA-1 Collision Search Graz

This is a research project that uses Internet-connected computers to do research in cryptanalysis. You can participate by downloading and running a free program on your computer.

Here is more detail:

http://www.iaik.tugraz.at/research/krypto/collision/SHA1CollisionBasics.php
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2007-08-10 02:35:36
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Thanks zombie ....sattelite ISP gets weird sometimes.... the collision thingy in the name threw me a bit thinking about LHC
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2007-08-10 07:45:17


EDIT: Stats export seems to work already! :-)

If stats are exported, isn't that implicit permission for stat sites to publish them?

That is not good enough for respectable stats sites. They will want explicit permission to publish stats.
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2007-08-10 23:06:35
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Cori, so we don't flood them with requests, why don't you ask for us?

Sorry I'm a bit late but today... but now email is sent to them.
I'm looking forward to their answer...
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2007-08-13 22:10:09

Sorry I'm a bit late but today... but now email is sent to them.
I'm looking forward to their answer...


Any word?
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2007-08-14 18:22:29

Sorry I'm a bit late but today... but now email is sent to them.
I'm looking forward to their answer...


Any word?

Not yet.
But it's a very new project so maybe they have more important things to do. *grin*
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2007-08-15 14:34:36
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Sorry I'm a bit late but today... but now email is sent to them.
I'm looking forward to their answer...


Any word?

Not yet.
But it's a very new project so maybe they have more important things to do. *grin*


Sorry for my bad English.
I also contacted the Team (MR. Rechberger) and he answered me that there is no Problem for them to give permission to publish there stats on BoincStats. The problem seams to be they jet don't know how to.
Here the Answer in German:
Von: Christian Rechberger [mailto:christian.rechberger@iaik.tugraz.at]
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 15. August 2007 16:19
An: Uwe Schmitz
Cc: sha1collisionsearch@iaik.tugraz.at
Betreff: Re: Boinc Stats - BAM und Credits.

Quoting Uwe Schmitz <uweschmitz@hotmail.com>:

> Sehr geehrtes SHA1-CollisionSearch Graz Team,
>
>
>
> ich denke diese anfrage habt ihr schon mehrfach bekommen – im Falle das dies
> noch nicht geschehen sein sollte:
>
> Ist von ihrer Seite ein Einverständnis dazu, dass ihre User und deren
> Credits auch auf der BoincStats Seite ( http://www.boincstats.com/ )
> erscheinen dürften, gegeben?!

Hallo Uwe,
ja, Einverständnis ist von unserer Seite gegeben.

> Wenn ja, sollten sie das ggf. den Betreibern mitteilen da sehr viele User
> dies begrüßen würden! So könnte man schneller ihrem Projekt beitreten (durch
> die Funktionen im BAM auf der Seite und damit auch im Boinc Manager) und ein
> „Vergleichen“ der Leistungen ist so viel einfacher.

Hier meine Frage: Welchen Betreibern wie mitteilen? Habe mich mit den
BOINC Statistikseiten noch nicht näher beschäftigt.

> Ich wollte das nur als Hinweis ihnen mitteilen – da sie dadurch auch gewiss
> ihre Vorteile haben könnten! (Mehr User für ihr gutes Projekt!)

Danke für die Unterstützung,
Christian Rechberger

So if possible - can some Admin may contact them for instructions ore so?!
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2007-08-15 15:57:41

I've been gathering stats for SHA-1 for a few weeks now. Reading his reply I guess it's ok to release the stats. Will do so tonight.
Please do not PM, IM or email me for support (they will go unread/ignored). Use the forum for support.
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2007-08-15 16:12:29

I've been gathering stats for SHA-1 for a few weeks now. Reading his reply I guess it's ok to release the stats. Will do so tonight.

Yes you are right - it's OK for them to do so! They just didn't know who ore how to contact BoincStats!
(Also you maybe contact them by E-Mail that you do so tonight?!)
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2007-08-15 17:21:30

Today I got the same reply from Christian Rechberger that is is ok to publish stats. I guess he had more than one mail concerning this issue...
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2007-08-15 18:20:33
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Yes! It's starting to work - in the Stats-Diagram you can already see SHA-1. (The Rest will follow - I guess )
Thanks a lot Willi!
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