Since February, BAM has given me a second CPID which has drastically reduced my credit. Is there any way to delete the second account and combine my credit to one account as previously?

What do you mean by BAM gave you a second CPID? Please explain in some more details. And it will best if you can post some links to pages from where the problem is well seen

Also: BAM! doesn't assign a CPID, the projects do.

OK. Since BAM Doesn't assign CPIDs, how do we get the mulitple CPIDs fixed. I've had upwards to 10 CPIDs. It started 2006-11-08 and has been up and down since. I have tried renew and that didn't work. Everytime a different node hits the project the CPID changes. Here's my detail stats http://www.boincstats.com/stats/boinc_user_graph.php?pr=bo&id=b65b36154e3a49f636a3148d4e0b3c83
Of course, it's up and down like a yoyo.

The Team stats are OK. Do you have any suggestions?

Thanks

Bill

Have you tried putting all of the projects on one host? If you have been having problems that long that is the only thing I can think of. Even that may not help since renderfarm is not currently active.

Hi Keck_Komputers,

Thanks for the reply. I have tried about everything I can think of. I'm attached to/running 59 projects which contributes to the problem. What I can't figure out is how the CPID works. I have several projects that have 2 CPIDs or more (e.g. PrimeGrid, BoincAlpha). PrimeGrid is a project I have been running over a year. I'm attached to all projects with 12 nodes except Zivis because BAM keeps detaching it and RenderFarm. RenderFarm will stay the same until they go back up with new URL, ?.

I noticed that the Stat sites that use the CPID have the same problem but the ones that use Userids/UserNames don't (e.g. http://stats.free-dc.org/tag.php?name=KAMCOBILL and ff" target="blank" rel="nofollow">http://boinc.mundayweb.com/one/stats.php/userID:9328/transff).

The other thing I noticed is the host stats. There sre 6 to 36 listed depending on the CPID that has the most credits. I have 1 P4 2.2 Ghz yet there are 9 listed at times. When I check the projects individually, most only have 1 listed and some have 2 but won't let you merge them.

In November I had 4 nodes running all the projects and had the same CPID (~32 projects). Then 1 node's BOINC Manager Crashed and after Re-installing and adding 1 more node it started and has been that way ever since.

It's not a major problem but just want to see if there's a way to to correct it.

Thanks

Bill

Edited for mundatweb url

Originally the largest numeric CPID was kept. It was later changed to the oldest. I don't really think any of the projects are running old enough versions of the server software to make a differnce, I believe it was changed before the 5.x.x versions.

I think one of the developers is looking into a possible bug in the mechanisim. I'll point him to this thread.

OK Thanks

Back up to 5

I noticed that you said that some projects have several CPIDs. If you mean that they have them at the same time, it means that you have created several accounts with different email addresses. You need to switch all machines to be attached to accounts with the exact same email address on all projects.

Having even one host that is attached to every project if all projects have the same email address should solve the problem.

Hi Jm7,

All accounts have been created with the same Email and password. If you check the sigs, The duplicates have the same credits. I don't know for sure why it's happening but everytime a different node connect to the server it changes the CPID for project to whatever the node has for CPID. I checked it by going to my account at a project, Udate with a node and then refresh the page and it changes the CPID. I have had as many as 10 CPID that I noticed. I can understand having different ones when I attach to a new project. If you check my detail stats, you can see how they have been going up and down for the month it keep track of.I'm attached to 60 projects on all nodes. I can't stay attached to Zivis because BAM keeps unattaching it and won't let me attach it. I have to attach it manually then it unattaches it again.


So, the only projects that aren't attached to all node sat this time are RenderFarm, Zebra, and Belgian Beer. They are attached to some but not all.

I was thinking at the time Node 1's BOINC Manager crashed (2006/11/08), somewhere around that time I attached my nodes to BAM. So, I'm try something. I unattached 11 nodes from BAM today. I kept 1 attached so I don't have to create a new BAM account. I don't know if this will do any good, but I have to give it a try :-)

Thanks for the help

Bill

Edited:

I attached to Milkyway @ Home yesterday. The CPIDs are in line with my CPIDs Now.
I updated with node12 and it's CPIDs is b65b36154e3a49f636a3148d4e0b3c83 .
I updated with node11 and it is 1c3beb46a41eb8528043eaa3154b7a7b .
I updated with node06 and it is c4ed12f0f45fc00e2e7f605df1fbe73f .
I updated with node02 and it is b65b36154e3a49f636a3148d4e0b3c83 .
They change each time and keep changing back and forth.

The same thing is happening to my Nodes http://www.boincstats.com/stats/boinc_host_stats.php?pr=bo&st=0&userid=b65b36154e3a49f636a3148d4e0b3c83

Here's another one :

not to hyjack your thread KAMCOBILL, but I think I have a similar concern...My CPID with CPDN -http://(http://attribution.cpdn.org/home.php)-(and a few others) is different than my BOINC CPID-http://(http://www.boincstats.com/stats/boinc_user_graph.php?pr=bo&id=1f4e9fc1179d1965b66f31c7e120a0fa). I believe I have made everything identical (I too noticed the problem when I added another host), waited over a week for everything to synchronize, and did a rain dance (just to be sure), but Im still not sure how to proceed...

Hi leprichon,

Don't worry about crashing the thread. I could use all the help/Input as I can get.

Usually, I think, You don't have to do anything. The CPIDs will come in line. Either but using the one you have or by creating another one. But, I'm not really sure how they actually work.

The problem that I have been having for about the last 9 months is I'm keeping the same CPIDs and they are switching back and forth for each project as my nodes connet the their servers.

And, I have projects with 2 or more CPIDs and the projects keep changing, too.

All of my nodes have different (from 2 to 5) CPIDS (e,g,HASH0XE9BB40, HASH0XE8B240, AND ETC.) and they keep changing back and forth.

It's not affecting Our Team Stats any, Just my user Stats. I think the team had only 1 ID.

Thanks for your interest and help

Bill

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Rytis at Primegrid might be able to help at that project, see here: http://www.primegrid.com/forum_thread.php?id=641 .

I feel I need to add to this as I have a similar problem. I have read the FAQ and can confirm that I have joined Boinc projects three weeks ago now totaling 12 projects, the last project being added 4 days ago. In all instances, I have used the same email address, the same user name and have checked each project to make sure that I did not make a mistake. Since in three weeks my projects did not align having 8 projects in one identity and another 4 projects in another although the user name is the same.

Therefore, I conclude that the problem is deeper than what is suggested in the FAQ and it seems that neither BOINC, BoinsStats or the individual projects that allocates CPID's seemed to be able to fix this problem...I tend to believe that it is a programatical error commonly referred to as a bug or a feature that needs to be looked at to make the process a lot simpler.

I think the problem is my nodes have more than one Project CPID. I have 2 to 3 different ones in each node and each node has different ones. I'm not sure how or who generates and assigns the CPID. If it's the projects My nodes shouldn't change it when they connect to server. The project server should change the nodes.

The other thing is why use CPIDs? To attach to and use BAM you have to have everything the same. Doesn't look like it's used for identifing anything except user. Why doesn't CPID=KAMCOBILL for me then there wouldn't be a CPID problem?

I unattached from BAM and no difference. Rule out BAM. I've attached to different projects and CPIDs go in line with all the ones I have. Rule out projects. My nodes don't assign them (or do they). Only thing left is BOINC Manager/EXE.

For me all the statster that use Username/account numbers have correct stats. And, All using CPIDs are wrong.

Hi,
Thought I'd add my voice to this as well - I think I have a similar problem too. I run rosetta, climatepredition and WCG on two computers. Until I joined climate I could view "my detailed stats" but now (about 3 months later) I can only view my stats by searching for myself. I'm wondering if it is because I haven't returned a climate WU (only the trickle ups) and so it can't merge them. I joined climate through BAM so it must have used the same email & password.

Marmot, I've just looked at your stats and every project shows the same CPID number. And only one instance of you appears, so as far as I can see, no CPIDs need to be synchronised in your case.

If CPDN crunchers do need to synchronise their CPIDs, they don't need to wait till they've completed a workunit, which is just as well because some people have been crunching their first climate model for over a year off and on.

mo.v - thank you for that. I assumed I couldn't see my detailed stats directly due to multiple CPIDs but that was incorrect. Looks like they all transferred to a new one so I've selected "renew CPID". Thanks for your help and sorry to hijack the post.

I have currently at least 3 cpids on the go. If I start a new project, I often get a new cpid, and some of my other projects migrate to the the new cpid. Even if I do not start a new project for a long time, it can take many weeks for the cpids to realign to a single cpid.
This is playing havoc with my stats, and seems to be a serious bug with BOINCStats. All my projects use the same user name, password, and email address.

Rick.

The best thing to do to make the CPIDs to line up/synchronise is, on every computer running boinc project/s, to go to the Projects tab and click Update for each project in turn. Repeat after a few hours. Repeat the next day.

I think the synchronisation will be more efficient if every crunching computer is attached to at least one particular project. So computer #1 could be attached to projects ABC&D, computer #2 to projects AKLM&N and computer #3 to projects AXY&Z. Project A on every crunching computer.

If the server for project A is down, this won't work and you'd need for example to attach computers #2 and #3 to project B or C or D.

You don't need to get new work each time, just to contact the server with the Update button. And of course with boinc internet access open.

As a rule of thumb, which has been mentioned once already by Keck, try to have at least one computer connected to all of the projects. That one computer will sync all of the CPID's into one. That one computer does not need to process WU's for all of the projects. Do not suspend the projects. Just set them for "No New Work". Like mo.v said,

At that point all of the projects should have the one CPID. IF not, forgive me for saying this, shut down all BOINC nodes. Then come into here and tell BoincStats to "Renew the CPID". Wait a period of time. Then one by one turn the nodes on and check the CPID's.

The host CPID is not the same as the User CPID.
@Bill - If you still have the same computers that are duplicated on the projects then here is what you have to do. Trust me, I have been fighting this battle for a long time. On the computer that is duplicated, if it is not connected to the project that it is duplicated at, then connect. You can abort a WU if one downloads, it is allowed. Then goto the project and merge the duplicated hosts with the newest one. You will need to leave it connected to the project in case the host cpid changes. If you do not want to do work for the project any more then set the No New Work.


Of course, you can wait till there are no more Work Units associated (server cleanup/purge) with that particular computer then delete the computer. You will not lose your credits. The credits are still assigned to your User CPID. If you still have a computer attached to the project, the project will move the credits to that computer and make it look like a super computer. If no, computers are attached or you delete all of the computers then it will just reflect that your User CPID has all of the credits with no computers attached.

There are a couple of projects that you will not be able to merge/delete hosts.
World Community Grid, XtremLab are a couple that come to mind. As you are going thru cleaning out your accounts you will find which ones they are. Once all of these projects have upgraded to the latest software release then you should be able to merge/delete. XtremLab has a policy that it will not allow old hosts to be merged/deleted for some reason. Their rules.

I have argued about the Host stats before and lost. I only have 5 pc's but BoincStats Host list is up to 20. Before I started cleaning up it said I had somewhere's around 50. I think LHC@Home says I have a few hundred (bug on their server). Hopefully this helps from another 40+ project addict.

Don't get me started on why my avatar and sigs are differant.