Hello Willy

I have noticed that my graphs for individual hosts are quite old. Specifically, the last entry is 27 Dec 08 for all but one host, which is 25 Dec 08.

Here's a link to one of the 27 Dec hosts:
http://boincstats.com/stats/boinc_host_graph.php?pr=bo&id=0488753d76ddad34b42874d8c83d0794

and here's the 25 Dec 08 one:
http://boincstats.com/stats/boinc_host_graph.php?pr=bo&id=cf3c47ff4d492a63cd8b84fb3de22198

My combined stats graphs are up to date:
http://boincstats.com/stats/boinc_user_graph.php?pr=bo&id=a12e83c113e9ad16fd4071422bb40cf1

Note, it is only the graphs that are old. The actual credit earned is shown. And yes, I have tried refreshing/reloading the page.

I also notice the headings for the individual host graphs say 'Last 30 days', not 'Last 60 days'. (I hope that shouldn't have been a new thread?)

Wishing you everything of the best for 2009, Willy.
Regards
Rod

Purging the cache as we type.

Unfortunately, that didn't help.

To try eliminate it being a problem on my side, I have now accessed the page with IE7, Opera 9.20 and Firefox 2.0.0.18, but still the same.

Anything else you'd like me try from my side?

Well, it's now on your end as every link you posted has correct images now. I'm sure it was the caching problem as there were 5 days old images in the cache directory, and they are very gone now.

Did you try <ctrl> F5 in IE7?

They were still wrong and then I tried this. Fixed!

What does <ctrl> F5 do that the refresh button doesn't? (Refresh shortcut = F5). I guess it must actually delete any cached pages, because it seemed to reload everything from scratch. Opera also now works - so maybe it is an instruction to the ISP to reload the pages?

Anyhow, it's all sorted now, and I've learnt something new!

Thanks Willy and Gundolf Jahn

F5 is a normal refresh of your page on the screen. Most of the data is coming from your cache memory or disk.
<ctrl> F5 does a forced refresh and catches the latest version of pages from the website server.

And I always thought that clicking the refesh button (or pressing F5) actually fetched the info from the site.

Ah well, thanks Crystal Pellet for enlightening me. This is one bit of info I will definitely be remembering.

Funny though, how this happened when there was actually a site problem (as per Willy) at the same time! Isn't coincidence a wonderful thing!

Regards and thanks to all for the replies.

Edit:
Willy, with the Boincstats side of things sorted I hope you don't mind a little more discussion about this, since I would like to know where the actual caching is happening:
I just checked a host with IE7 and Opera 9.20. Both showed graphs until 27 Dec 08. I clicked the respective refresh buttons and got the same thing - this ties in with previous postings. I then pressed <ctrl> F5 in IE7 which got the latest graphs. Clicking the refresh in Opera again now got me the new page there, too!
So does this mean my ISP is caching, and that <ctrl> F5 is 'strong' enough to get them to reload from Boincstats?

Any ideas, anyone?
Rod

every ISP does - but it depends on those settings of your browser when to check for new versions of pages or to use local cache..

Ok, so <ctrl> F5 actually gets my ISP to re-download the info from Boincstats, since 2 different browsers got the new info after <ctrl> F5 in IE7.
I think I understand, and I think I've probably dragged out this thread. too! But it was still related to the topic

Thanks Frank
Rod

no, not yet...

F5 does a simple refresh according to your browser settings and may still show things on your local cache. CTRL+F5 forces a fresh download..

Sorry to be going on about this, but I am really just trying to clear up some confusion in what I see happening.

I have just used IE7, Firefox and Opera to access this host:
http://boincstats.com/stats/boinc_host_graph.php?pr=bo&id=17319329982f4d4c7005413be3f3b35b

Looking at 'Total Credit, Last 30 days' graph, I have the last date as 2008-12-27. Would you like to check it and let me know what you see?
I did the same thing on a different host that had the same date. Clicking the refresh button in each browser didn't change it. However, after doing CTRL-F5 in IE7 only, the same refresh button in the other browsers brought up the updated graph. I can't speak for Firefox but I do know that Opera does not share IE7's cache. In fact I cleared Opera's cache before the experiment.
This is why I'm wondering if the issue is with my ISP, and if it is I wonder why it only affects the images? (the other info is always up to date).

Ok, thanks for listening.
Rod

I see a graph up to the 4. of January:

If this is the image that you mean.

I only use IE7, so no experiences with the other two browsers.

Edit: This paragraph - Sorry Willy, I only noticed the star after I posted. This is my last posting to this thread.




Actually any of the graphs on that page that shows a daily figure will do - they all show the same date - 27 Dec 08 - even following the link you posted here!

What I'm going to do in this posting is outline the steps I'm taking and the results.

In IE7, Firefox and Opera the last date they show is 27 Dec 08. (And on my wife's PC with IE7 - so it looks like the caching is my ISP)
I'm now going to click the refresh button in each browser on my pc.
Click, click, click

Hmm, Firefox now has 4 Jan, but the other 2 don't. That didn't happen the last time.

Clicked on IE7 and Opera again and voila! 4 Jan!

So, it seems that Firefox's refresh button is a reload button. Today, that is, didn't do it yesterday!

Ok, so what did I find out?
Firstly, there was originally a BoincStats cache problem which Willy fixed.
Then I found out that the button is Refresh, not Reload.
Also, Firefox's behaviour seems inconsistent, but I'm willing to say I may have made a mistake.
Lastly, my ISP must be doing some caching as 2 different pc's would not have access to each other's caches.
And finally (comes after lastly), there are some very helpful people around! I hope you all found this as interesting as I did.

I leave you with this observation told to me by my minister!
There are 2 types of minister. One says, "And in conclusion" and he concludes. The other says, "And lastly" and boy, does he last!

Thank you for your indulgence
Rod

Unfortunately, I seem to be experiencing this issue too. I've tried multiple browsers (4 now, Firefox, Opera, IE, and Safari), none have caching issues, I know my ISP doesn't cache this stuff, so my only conclusion is that BOINCStats is still generating wrong images.

A couple of my hosts haven't had graph updates for a little while now. Full list below:
January 14th: http://boincstats.com/stats/boinc_host_graph.php?pr=bo&id=4961830
January 11th: http://boincstats.com/stats/boinc_host_graph.php?pr=bo&id=4623430
January 16th: http://boincstats.com/stats/boinc_host_graph.php?pr=bo&id=4896772

The first two hosts are still active, while the third exists, but hasn't run for a little while (that machine dual-boots Windows 7 and Vista). Thanks for any response, Willy.

EDIT: Oops, I missed the star in the title... Sorry, but I figure going into an existing thread is easier than creating a new one.
EDIT2: And I might add that the host posted by Odd-Rod within the last few posts also only shows up until January 14th, so it's not limited to me. I've just confirmed this issue from outside as well.