Hi Barbud,

Right now I have 13 host attached to BAM and 64 Projects. I tried the Renew CPID and merged all the host at each project that would let me.Hehe, I've has as many as 1M hosts with LHC @ Home. I was merging them at about 100 at a time for each host until they were gone. I gave up on that one. The biggest thing that I can see wrong is my hosts has more that 1 CPID/HASH. I'm about ready to go down to 1 host, uninstall and delete BOINC Directory on the other 12 to see if I can get it down to 1 CPID with the projects that are up and running. The one that aren't up won't change.

I have just about given up on it. It been almost a year now. When it started I had 4 hosts attached to all 37 Projects. I'm always attached, but at times I no new work them. I've never used suspend for a project but have for WUs.

Our team stats are correct so I'm not going to worry about the User and Host Stats.

Happy Crunching

Bill

I use one common project on each host to make sure all general setting changes and CPIDs are updated. The projects that are gone will never change unless you can connect to them again. My projects are on one CPID, I hope I never have to change my email address.


What happens if you use the renew CPID?

Bill,
After looking at ,- I do not know how many differant accounts for you - I have a headache now.
IF you were to do what you suggested above (which I have done), it will still take a few weeks for all of the accounts to move. One good thing about shutting down and possibly reloading is that you can probally go thru and vacuum out the older pc's that have been running a while and maybe reconfigure some. But let them run out of work first.
Then I think if you were to sync the following:

BOINC alpha test	44	11762892c42ea42deff95e6a299bb02a

BRaTS@Home	78	11762892c42ea42deff95e6a299bb02a

Eternity2.net	152	11762892c42ea42deff95e6a299bb02a

LHC@home	7647	11762892c42ea42deff95e6a299bb02a

MalariaControl	2653	11762892c42ea42deff95e6a299bb02a

Nano-Hive@Home	693	11762892c42ea42deff95e6a299bb02a

Rosetta@home	31396	11762892c42ea42deff95e6a299bb02a

WEP-M+2	                130	11762892c42ea42deff95e6a299bb02a

World Community G	18908	11762892c42ea42deff95e6a299bb02a

XtremLab	                375	11762892c42ea42deff95e6a299bb02a

yoyo@home	74	11762892c42ea42deff95e6a299bb02a

Sync these retired accounts (except predictor, you can still fix that)

Gerasim@Home	38	1c3beb46a41eb8528043eaa3154b7a7b

HashClash	                246	1c3beb46a41eb8528043eaa3154b7a7b

Predictor@Home	7619	1c3beb46a41eb8528043eaa3154b7a7b

Zivis                         900	1c3beb46a41eb8528043eaa3154b7a7b

All this syncing should be done too this CPID:b65b36154e3a49f636a3148d4e0b3c83 this is the one cpid that is on the most active accounts and your BoincStats avatar.
But, Renderfarm is off on its own with CPID:c63c3c1f239c75c9775fe5bcf3307817 Maybe you can still sync that here at <BAM!<BOINCstats<Sync retired projects. But it will not show anything differant on other stats sites. BTW, speaking of renderfarm, do you know why there is credit activity on your accounts within the last month?

I know it's not much but maybe this winter when the hard snow comes to WV you can stay inside next to your computers staying warm and cussing the cpid fairy while merging and syncing. When it comes to merging on LHC, only merge the ones with credit; that will help with the duplicate hosts there.

Good luck from one grunt to another.

Hi Grizz,

I've tried Renew CPID twice in the last year. Both times all it did was go to one of the other CPIDs that I have for my detail stats. The CPIDs keep changing when a different host connects. I'm doing good now. Only 5 CPIDs. I had as many as ten at the same time.

I just can't figure our how they work. I have a CPID at the project and then I have a different host CPID for each host for each project. I ran boincview and the host CPID for the projects are changing in the directories. If I knew a way to change them I could get them all the same.

Know what you mean about changing email. I've been using the same email, username and password for the last 20 years, so I guess I'll have to quit crunching. :-)

The CPID isn't really a big problem. I would just like to see where I really rank once. I mostly use mundays for BOINC and Free-DCs for all Projects. It doesn't seem like any statster support all of the projects.

Happy Crunching

Bill

Barbud,

I know what you're saying but B65 is on most now, but in an hour it may be 117 and so on. It all depends which host connected last. I can update all host for 1 project one at a time and refresh the project page and each host will change the CPID. Some are the same but updating 13 it'll change between the 5 CPIDs I have now. If I renew CPID it'll change to another one I already have.

I attched to BAM with a new host on the 1st and it took about 8 hours of sending new CPID to projects requested by BAM. The projects that are down didn't get sent yet. I think the biggest problem is my hosts have different CPIDs and have up to 3 in the BOINC Directory. I don't know how 1 host can have more than 1 ID.

I'm not sure what activity you are meaning for Render Farm. The only thing I see is losing position daily. Is that what you mean? I know one thing though I was running Zivis when BAM detached me. I have never be able to stay attached since, unless Ideattach from BAM. It went down the last time I checked so it don't matter now.

I spend about 16 hours a day on here all year long. :-) I can live with it. I'm going to try renew CPID once more time and see mwhat happens.

Take care and Happy Crunching
Bill

I just happen to think that when I renew CPID It won't do all the projects that I'm attached to. I don't think it'll work.

"Renew CPID" in BAM! doesn't give any command to the projects. It simply goes to all the projects asking for the current CPID, then tries to figure out which one to use for BAM!.

Here's one host with more than CPID;

HASH(0xe8b320)
HASH(0xe8b240)
HASH(0xe9bb40)

All my host are like this. So if I just run one' it still won't change the CPIDs to one.

Oh Ok. Thanks Willy. BAM is using the the CPID that the projects have. If it doesn't change the projects then that won't help. What's the best way to corret this then? Since my hosts are changing the project CPIDs, can I change all my host CPIDs to the same one for all the projects?

Thanks Again

Bill

If you look at this link, which is your host stats for Renderfarm it shows that within the last month there was credit activity. Most likely from the cpid changes.

How do you tell the project which CPID to use? I know the sites communicate amongst themselves or with a site somewhere because of the list of "Projects in which you are participating" stats on each project or are they just importing the xml data from all of the other projects?

@Bill - I still think that you may have to go down to one computer for a few days and get each project aligned with one CPID. You do not have to wait till you are out of work on the other computers. You can rename the boinc directory, then do a fresh install of a current stable version of the Boinc client. Then copy the sub-folders and certain files from the renamed Boinc directory to the new directory and continue working on the existing work. I can not recall the files at the moment but they are listed in one of these many forum's.

@Willy - I remember looking at the FAQ for CPID, but now I can not find anything. Can there be a link just for CPID FAQ? Within that link have all of the information that has been talked about in the past few months about CPID. User CPID, Host CPID and the fact that temp CPID exists when initially signing up to a project till the project has had a chance to sync with the others. I believe that this is something that needs to be heavily addressed or refered back to Berkely.

Stepping back now and wishing all luck.

If anyone needs to back up the boinc folder contents and later restore them either to the same computer or a different one, unless there's a really important reason I wouldn't recommend picking out particular files or subfolders. The safest thing to do is always to back up the complete contents of the boinc folder and restore the complete contents.

If yu were going to select certain parts and discard others, it would always be safest to first make a backup of the entire contents. So if things went wrong and the restored partial package didn't work, you'd be able to try again.

Barbud

OK I see what you mean. I think that happened when the projecrt was retired. Stats were dumped and added back. The last month credites are equal to total credits. I thought evrybody's would be that way. The same thing happed to Zivis too.

I know that if you use a common project on all computers, any projects that are connecting will update the CPID to the oldest one you have for that email, I use Depspid for this because it dosen't use much in the line of resources. Eventually all your CPIDs will change to the same one, if you have the same email and the project connects eventually.

Edit: Depspid is down for October.

Grizz,

That's what should happen. It's been 11 months with these CPIDs going up and down. They even go away and then come back. The problem I'm seeing is my host are controlling the CPIDs not the projects, BAM, email, and etc. All hosts are attached to all the projects and all the hosts have more than one CPID. The CPIDS change on all the projects not just 1 or 2.

I can't see how they will ever go in line because everytime a host connects to a server the host changes the CPID not the server. Since the Username, Email and Password are all the same, that is not having anything to do with kepping/having 1 CPID. If it did KAMCOBILL/kamcobill@kamcousa.com would have 1 CPID. But, as it is KAMCOBIIL Host 1 has 3 CPID, KAMCOBILL Host 2 has another 3 and so on and on.

As for having as high as 40 host instaed of 13, It won't be possible to ever get them right because some projects won't let you merge and/or delete hosts and others are down/retired.

I have given up since I can't find an answer. :-))

Happy Crunching

Bill

Don't know whether this will help at all. I've found that if I go to my project accounts using the buttons in boinc manager, most projects take me to long computer summary pages where I can merge or delete computer records. But some projects (cpdn beta and QMC) take me to short computer summary pages where there's no merge/delete option. There could be other projects that also do this; I don't know as I'm attached to very few.

On these projects I need to go to their main page, click Your account and get to the long computer summary pages by that route. I then see the merge/delete option.

I think that using the merge option may give better results than deleting computer records.

mo.v,

Know what you mean.

Bill

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Hi All.

I've been working on My problem having multiple CPIDs. Since I've been using the same email, userID, password, country, zipcode, and URL ever since I signed up for BOINC projects in 2005, also have all hosts attached to all projects and email hash is the same in all hosts, I figured there must have been another trouble. The big questions were, How could one host have the same email hash and 4 CPIDs assigned? and Where can the problem be? and Why aren't they Synchronizing?

November, 2005 I had a host crash and that seems when the CPID problem started. Coupled with adding new host and projects since then the problem escalated (e.g. seasawing back and forth at about 300K - 400K credits, when I had over 1M credits. At times I had 10 CPIDs and it finally settled down to 4 for at least a year.

On July 23, 2008 I did a delayed detach for all project on 15 out of 16 Hosts. Within a day or two I was sesawing back and forth over my 1M Credits (which solved most of the active CPIDs). Immediately, 1 of the 4 CPIDs vanished.

Once I got all 15 detached from all the projects I started attaching them back one at a time. Although I still have 3 CPIDs, The problem seems resolved. My main CPID has over 1.2M and staying close evryday. I think the other 2 CPIDs will be gone as soon as Predictor@Home and Virtual Prairie are back running. One is in each CPID left.

As for the big questions, I did not find the answers. It seems to me that the projects assign the CPIDs which aren't the same as user main CPIDs, then somewhere they are suspose to be sync'd (which wasn't happening). I have decided it is definately a problem with one of the BOINC Programs and they have put a very low priority on fixing it. It really isn't a big problem, but come on almost 3 years of this problem. It's nice to see how you compare with others, finally.

All in all, after a month of work on the problem, it's finally working well. Hopefully it'll stay that way. I am now a Happy Cruncher.

Bill