Somehow I had two accounts on WCG and on my coming back I started sending credit to the "wrong" account, now the wrong account has credit (about 1500 CS) and it has wiped out my 35,000 from the correct account. THe both have the same CPID ... um, am I toast?

I mean, I took a drop of 35K the one day last week, but, now the new account is being updated with values should not both show up? Or is it your scripts only see the first and skips a subsequent "duplicate" cpid?

And, if the old account stops reporting updates because no work is being done there, will the new account "reset" and though I will lose the minor amount of work I did in the wrong account will be lost, the freater amout will be restored?

I hate being toasted like this ....

Hi Paul,

I could only find 1 CPID for username Paul D. Buck and this is the WCG Boinc Stats http://boincstats.com/stats/user_graph.php?pr=wcg&id=195868

and

Here is WCG URL http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/stat/viewMemberInfo.do?userName=Paul%20D.%20Buck

Did you change Username from FeistMeister or somethnig?

Bill

Bill,

And there is, this which is the correct account and the one I am now correctly adding data too...

WCG does not allow accounts to be deleted for any reason so, when I created that one years ago it had 0 credit in that i fixed the problem right away. When I came BACK I looked at the e-mail they sent and though it did list the TWO acconts, of course I only saw the wrong one ...

So, conundrum time ...

An aside

I was wondering... Are you the same Paul D. Buck that created the BOINC information data sheets which were donated to what became a BOINC WIKI?

And who created the Unofficial BOINC Wiki ... yes, same ...

And no, I don't think I will be running BOINC long ... I see little to attract me ... there is a long thread under which much of what I have to say is buried ... and misunderstood even if read ...

Basically, the issues I talked about as I was leaving two years ago are still here and are worse ...

...
And who created the Unofficial BOINC Wiki ... yes, same ...

And no, I don't think I will be running BOINC long ... I see little to attract me ... there is a long thread under which much of what I have to say is buried ... and misunderstood even if read ...

Basically, the issues I talked about as I was leaving two years ago are still here and are worse ...

True, in many ways it is much worse though without the intense vehemence - though it still appears. Many of the sites try to control it, though not well. The same old by the same few.

As for the science, we must still disagree as I believe there exists the possibility that some of the research will, eventually, be useful. As such, if I wish to read of it, I must put up with those who monopolise and feel they are the Sacred Defenders of BOINC. Besides, it is better they post here than they release their pent-up anger on the streets or in pubs/bars.

I think that it is more of a symptom of what I am espousing.

I think a lot of the research will be useful in potential ... I am not quibbling. About that.

But, I still see the same problems, the same mistakes, and sorry, stupidity is not something that I want to be associated with. ANd I cannot ignore stupidity any more than I can stop breathing...

Besides, the attitude is that the loss of just one participant is still not a problem ... so, my leaving will be just more of the same ... anyway, see the discussion in SAH Politics ...

... anyway, see the discussion in SAH Politics ...

Sorry, I found the S@H Fora vile and obscene years ago - hence the leaving of so many interesting people from BOINC. Now that some of those same vile people are moderators... I'll pass.

Which is my point ...

What one project does, affects all ...

Predictor@Home though not the only problem was the the project that crystalized it for me.. if one project (PPAH) could treat people so badly, any project can ... SAH has some of these issues in a slightly differently way ... but the end result is the same.

... Predictor@Home though not the only problem was the the project that crystalized it for me.. if one project (PPAH) could treat people so badly, any project can ... SAH has some of these issues in a slightly differently way ... but the end result is the same.

Perhaps. S@H had (perhaps still has) a problem that they permitted the Sacred Defenders of BOINC to attack anyone who had an opinion that differed from theirs. This still exists and can be witnessed in other projects than S@H.

As for Protein Predictor... yes, it annoyed people but in general, those that were annoyed were, mostly, members of the Sacred Defenders of BOINC. I find it hypocritical of them that they gang up and do things to people in other projects and then when it is done to them they want the project destroyed. Personally, I find nothing wrong with Protein Predictor as it is their project, run with their funding, to do with as they like. If they wish to ban anyone, myself included, it is their right.

There are, after all, plenty of other projects to do research for and Protein Predictor has enough members still willing to research for them without needing any of those who were banned. Once they have attached all their Beowulf clusters... maybe they will convert to 100% project-only and have no need of any non-project related computers.

Hi Paul,

This is strange. How can there be 2 Different listings with the same CPID? Especially with different user Names. It must be impossible.

I thought I had it bad with 4 CPIDs and the same projects being in 2 or 3 of them. I've noticed that every other site that user Usernames and.or UserIDs always have the stats correct. I don't understand why there are CPIDs when there is Email Addresses or UserNames that work the best. I've had as many as 10 CPIDs and it's been going on since November, 2006 when the problem started. From Jan, 06 to then I had no problem. November is when I updated from 5.4.11 to 5.6.x and it's been that way ever since.

Keep your chin up

Bill

Edited: Look at the differnce in credits un my name and the real ones in signature.

Even more interesting to me is that it looks like BOINC Synergy (team site) has the numbers correct. I mean, it was my fault to open two accounts with different names...

My Old, cross-project account has always been Paul D. Buck, I forget the reason for the other account. BUt, when I opened it up and attached to it, and sent work back to it, I built up a grand or so of CS. Now, here, the OLD accouant has been getting the updates and I am doing all my work there ... maybe it will correct today at the next roll-up?

But, I looked at my page on BoOINC Synergy and it has 38K CS which is about what I would expect at this moment (when I quit it was 35K and change) ... I like the signature here better, but, if it cannot b counted on to have my stats right ... well, ugly and accurate is better than pretty and wrong ...

The only way to align CPIDs is to basically connect one computer to almost all the projects and let the CPIDs synchronize...

If you run one batch of projects on one machine, and a completely different batch on another, the CPIDs on the two sets of projects can be synchronized down to two numbers, but that is all ... you have to make one project, at least, common between the two machines. Then make sure that all the CPIDs do center on one value ... then you can work in the other projects ... In theory, the lowest (If I remember right) CPID is supposed to "win" and propagate ...

In my case BOTH accounts on WCG have the same CPID and it looks like the script, for whatever reason, stops looking when it finds the first cpid for the project (or something)... since I do not knnow how he rolls up the stats it is hard to say ... BUT, at least I know that it is right at the TEAM site ... I can only hope that the roll-up will happen here by tomorrow ...

I've tried everything that has been in FAQ and in all treads. Hehe. nevr works. I have hosts with 3 project CIPDs in it. I have 15 Hosts conneted to all projects. it has been that way since the begining. I have 14 XP hosts banging project that only support linux and my hosts still change the CPIDs when they connect. Seesawing them back and forth 24/7/365. My Email, password, username, URL, country, zip code, team are all the same. I should have no more hosts that 18 but 55+ show up at times. Mergerd all hosts at projects that will let you merge them, too. It's very interesting.

I did a ticket for a sync host CPID (like sync for retired projects) at the dev. Projected version is 6.2. Hehe, they don't even have a 6 for windows or linux. I guess I'll have to invest in a MAC Host or 15 user License. Of course, I'm a little strapped since spent $6,000 already this year.

Me too, just dropped about 12K on the new computer ...

Now my UPS batteries died ... it looks like it will be cheaper to go buy two new smaller UPS as I am doing less machines and it may still cost less than a full replacement ...

I just added my team sig ... I could have sworn that there was a way to have them side by side ... sigh ... if I knew how to do that I have since forgotten (unfortunately) ...

Hehe. I just bought a small backup. First one never worked at all and second doesn't stop computer from turning off. So far it's been a waste.

I have to retrack part of my last post. I just downloaded Windows 6.1.2 and installed it.

Edited: Oh my. My BOINC data has changed to C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data.

I'm not sure what the term is but there is a way to put them side by.

if the unit is too small then it will not.

the other problem is that some of them don't switch over fast enough. You cannot hardly get a "true" UPS these days. Everything just about that they call a UPS is really an SPS ... it does not condition all power at all times and pass it through...

They have a relay and switch to the inverter when power is lost. AND that means you can lose half or a full cycle and the computer may sense that and be off already before the SPS has switched ...

That's what's hapening. I put a light on it and it goes out for a second or so. It's says it's big enought for a complete system, but I omly had a60w light on it and it's not too good. I'm going to take a stab at building one and see what happens.

When the power is off I use the generator which is a paid and a little more expensive. Have to keep crunching full speed ahead with a 10 day supply of WUs. 24/7/345. Have been maintaining 99.9% on the running stats.

How to go for now. Got to install on 14 more hosts.