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2007-02-20 18:20:37

I just found this post on the CPDN board:

The person in question is Wate, his(her data are in the link in the quote.
It recently came to the attention of boinc staff that a multi-project cruncher called Wate who occupied a very high position in the boinc and project stats had reached this exalted position by dishonest means.

In early June 2006 he appears to to have released onto the internet a link purporting to provide Windows updates including now for Vista. Some 1500 members of the public worldwide downloaded these 'updates' which in fact consisted of a trojan application that downloaded boinc.exe and attached the person's computer to Wate's account, giving him the subsequent fraudulent credits.

About 90% of the people affected appear to have uninstalled or disabled the unwanted boinc installation, but some compromised computers are still running and crashing climate models. Boinc and project staff have no means of contacting the owners of these computers.

The problem came to light when an affected member of the public noticed the heavy drain on his laptop's battery, looked in Task Manager at the running processes, identified boinc and contacted a group of genuine boinc members in Italy.

Carl deleted Wate's cpdn credits last Friday. An unfortunate side-effect of this was that cpdn credits did not update over the weekend. This problem is now sorted. The managers of most of the other projects Wate was attached to have chosen a different course, altering his registration details.

Wate's method of hijacking computers via a dishonest download is one of the classic methods used by spammers.

Boinc staff, the ClimatePrediction programmers and your moderators stress that boinc and project software was never at fault, nor was there ever any breach of Windows XP or Vista security. The dishonest application was Wate's trojan. Boinc and project software were never infiltrated and remain secure.

How can we prevent our own computer being similarly compromised by frauds and spammers?

*Use legitimate software (it is said that half the illegal copies of Windows sold in China come with a virus pre-installed).

*Download updates for your operating system and other programmes via the tools on your computer, not through links in emails or links on web pages.

*Download new programmes only through links on websites you thoroughly trust, or type the address yourself.

*Keep your AV and firewall up-to-date and scan regularly. Install and use malware cleaners such as Spybot and Adaware.

*Look at Task Manager from time to time to see all the running processes on your computer. Right-click on the digital clock and select it. The processes whose names you don't recognise can be identified through a search engine. If you suspect a rogue application, download HijackThis and post your log there. You will be told what can be safely deleted.

*If your computer behaves unexpectedly, post on the forums.


Here is Wate:

http://www.boincstats.com/stats/boinc_user_graph.php?pr=bo&id=873722

http://climateapps2.oucs.ox.ac.uk/cpdnboinc/show_user.php?userid=188887

http://boinc.berkeley.edu/chart_list.php

http://burp.boinc.dk/forum_user_posts.php?userid=100 - appears to be the same member.

This thread can be used for discussion, reprobation and ridicule.

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2007-03-23 09:46:59
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All projects has disabled his account and deleted the credits, except predictor. The statement of the predictor admin (http://predictor.scripps.edu/forum_thread.php?id=2477&nowrap=true#13682) :
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This thread is closed. Please do not create a new one.

Since this thread was first created I have deleted two other threads incorrectly accusing
volunteers of cheating.

If someone has installed the boinc client on machines that they do not have permission to that is
wrong. I have no way of knowing if this has or hasn't happened. Just because "some guy" posted
something on the internet is not good enough reason to take any action against anyone.

dlb


An the follow up thread : http://predictor.scripps.edu/forum_thread.php?id=2521
Saenger
 
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2007-03-23 13:50:04
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For the lazy guys'n'gals:

New discussion: http://predictor.scripps.edu/forum_thread.php?id=2521

Closed thread: http://predictor.scripps.edu/forum_thread.php?id=2477

And I encourage everyone to participate!
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2007-03-23 16:28:48

Saenger - The admins at predictor have hidden the new thread you created!
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2007-03-23 16:44:17
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Saenger - The admins at predictor have hidden the new thread you created!


I just recieved this :
Predictor@Home notification:

This email is sent to inform you that one of your threads in the forum has been affected by moderation in Predictor@Home:
Thread: Discussion of trojan BOINC-installer reopened
Link: /forum_thread.php?id=2521

The moderator gave this explanation to why your thread was moderated:
None Given

For further information and assistance with Predictor@Home go to

After I wanted to post something more, I got this in the browser :
You may not post or rate messages until Apr 6, 2007


So if anyone else could please start those threads


Edit:
nieuwe thread: http://predictor.scripps.edu/forum_thread.php?id=2522
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2007-03-23 16:48:31
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Saenger - The admins at predictor have hidden the new thread you created!

It is very rude, what the predictor admins do here.
It is time for me to permanently boycott this project !
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2007-03-23 17:39:50

The follow up threat from dagorath was censored and removed, too. Here is a new one : http://predictor.scripps.edu/forum_thread.php?id=2523
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2007-03-23 19:09:51

It appears Mr David Braun, admin at predictor, has become drunk on his own power, censoring posts almost faster than you can write them, handing out post bans at the drop of a hat. I , like others am now banned untill january 2038 because I had the temerity to complain about the level of censorship.
Allthough the the installation of trojan clients is no small matter I feel it is now
secondry to Mr Brauns attitude who seems hell bent on showing the unrully mob
who's boss.
Having contributed to what is a worthy project since 2004 it saddens me to see it brought into disrupute by the self rightous stubbaness of one person.

M4rtyn
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2007-03-23 19:47:45
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Now they even closed account creation to make sure we "bad users" don't come back and post again against that kind of censorship!

It's unbelievable. >
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2007-03-23 20:23:26

full ack!

it's a shame what prector's admin does

(I'm banned too by P@Home until 2038 too after I did complain about this)
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2007-03-23 21:10:04

btw. there's an own discussion thread about the censorship of predictor:
http://www.boincstats.com/forum/forum_thread.php?id=1898
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2007-04-13 23:37:10

Who needs a trojan to put boinc on unsecured computers?

Trojans are invasive and EVIL, it discusts me, if you cant crack into a system without causing harm, go bone yourself bloody.
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2007-04-14 09:48:58

Who needs a trojan to put boinc on unsecured computers?


Someone, who cares about his/her credits more than about science
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2007-04-14 10:29:40

Who needs a trojan to put boinc on unsecured computers?


Someone, who cares about his/her credits more than about science


Allthough I would totaly condem the use of trojan software on boinc clients I believe their is nothing wrong with someone caring more about credits than the science, the only reason I participate in seti is for the competion, and anyway there is very little, if any scientifc benefit to be gained from seti. For Pure science and benefit to humanity I crunch for projects like LHC, protien folding malaria@home and before the censorship outrage, predictor. Holding these opnions dose not put me in the same catorgory as some one who uses dishonest means to obtain credits.

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2007-04-14 11:07:41

Who needs a trojan to put boinc on unsecured computers?


Someone, who cares about his/her credits more than about science


Allthough I would totaly condem the use of trojan software on boinc clients I believe their is nothing wrong with someone caring more about credits than the science, the only reason I participate in seti is for the competion, and anyway there is very little, if any scientifc benefit to be gained from seti. For Pure science and benefit to humanity I crunch for projects like LHC, protien folding malaria@home and before the censorship outrage, predictor. Holding these opnions dose not put me in the same catorgory as some one who uses dishonest means to obtain credits.

m4rtyn

You're right, I used the wrong expression...
The right answer should be: "Someone, who cares about his/her Cobblestones much more than about everything else."
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2007-04-14 17:11:29

Who needs a trojan to put boinc on unsecured computers?


Someone, who cares about his/her credits more than about science


Allthough I would totaly condem the use of trojan software on boinc clients I believe their is nothing wrong with someone caring more about credits than the science, the only reason I participate in seti is for the competion, and anyway there is very little, if any scientifc benefit to be gained from seti. For Pure science and benefit to humanity I crunch for projects like LHC, protien folding malaria@home and before the censorship outrage, predictor. Holding these opnions dose not put me in the same catorgory as some one who uses dishonest means to obtain credits.

m4rtyn

You're right, I used the wrong expression...
The right answer should be: "Someone, who cares about his/her Cobblestones much more than about everything else."


Well said, I agree entirely.

m4rtyn
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2007-04-16 06:54:58
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[quote][quote][quote][quote]Who needs a trojan to put boinc on unsecured computers?


hEY. Forget Boincstats, its not updating from berkeleys neglect of us.

But check out my statz and see my "skillz" first hand.

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/view_profile.php?userid=8341536

http://www.myspace.com/thefixer23

you too can have 30 systems. Just ask me how.

No viruses, no trojans., just using windows programs.

Well and a good IP scanner.
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2007-04-16 17:33:10

you too can have 30 systems. Just ask me how.

No viruses, no trojans., just using windows programs.

Well and a good IP scanner.


So you are installing BOINC on computers without the knowing of their owners If that is so then you'll be the next one after Wate to get your credits zeroed and your accounts locked
part of
Wenn jeder an sich denkt, wird an alle gedacht!
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2007-04-17 03:14:34
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hey lookhere Goku you dragonballsy a** little punk, you think your all so secure., you think this guy wate is done and over with?

You use your brain, you think someone this sophisticated will simply stop runnin boinc?

Im sure hes one of the top competitors right now and you dont know it, he just created a new email account! lol, idiots. You cant stop a cracker!

So I will let go of your ears and eyes and let your head slide back into your ****** where you like them to be.

Just thought Id try and enlighten you a bit.


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2007-04-17 03:48:37
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hey lookhere Goku you dragonballsy a** little punk, you think your all so secure., you think this guy wate is done and over with?

You use your brain, you think someone this sophisticated will simply stop runnin boinc?

Im sure hes one of the top competitors right now and you dont know it, he just created a new email account! lol, idiots. You cant stop a cracker!

So I will let go of your ears and eyes and let your head slide back into your ****** where you like them to be.

Just thought Id try and enlighten you a bit.


So, you think your gonna be the new wate. he was an idiot but at least he had the sense not shoot his fat mouth off about what he was doing. And for your enlightenment it do'nt matter how many computers you crack, you'll still have a small dick.

M4rtyn



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2007-04-17 04:45:45

So, you think your gonna be the new wate. he was an idiot but at least he had the sense not shoot his fat mouth off about what he was doing. And for your enlightenment it do'nt matter how many computers you crack, you'll still have a small dick.

M4rtyn

He bahaved acordingly small-dickish in the Seti forum, I've reported this thread over there.
Lot's of his later posts there are in hidden threads.
Let's see whether he's just bragging with nothing to back his crimes, or whether not, and what they can do about it in the latter case.
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2007-04-17 06:09:14
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And ANOTHER THING, I NEVER SAID I HAVE DONE ANYTHING IN VIOLATION OF BOINCS TERMS OF USE, I SIMPLY HAVE IMPLIED THAT IT IS POSSIBLE.

SHOW ME THE TEXT WHERE I OPENLY ADMIT TO ANY WRONG DOING?


Hey I've seen your web page, your obviously trying to compensate for somthing.
and it sure looks like I touched a raw nerve. Small Dick, no doubt about it. LEARN TO LIVE WITH IT.

M4rtyn


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ps. Whats a "mogoloid"


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2007-04-17 06:34:43
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USA, and we all know you english boys got three inch peters. Everyone knows that, Want a number to a good dentist?


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2007-04-17 06:55:04
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Look here you english tea sipping , crumpet eating, snagletoothed son of a bitch, howd you like some good old Alabama blacksnake?

USA, and we all know you english boys got three inch peters. Everyone knows that, Want a number to a good dentist?


Sorry man I Aint gonna bait you no more. I just got through reading your previous posts and it's pretty Obvious that you seem to be going through some kind of life crissis right now. Hey everybody makes a fool of themselves somtimes, but when somone chooses to do it in a public forum it can only be a cry for help. But really you dont have to worry, these days its okay to admit you have sexual fellings for other men. Hope this helps.

m4rtyn

Hiding your my space profile wont help, you cant hide from yourself.
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